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		<title>Comment on Web Usability Guidance by wisp-o'-the-will</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/web-usability-guidance/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>wisp-o'-the-will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 21:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been quietly following you all for a while now.. This latest usability site is most interesting.. Will be tweeting it after a bit as it has yet a different feel, appeal from others sharing similar information..

Peace and best wishes in your work.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been quietly following you all for a while now.. This latest usability site is most interesting.. Will be tweeting it after a bit as it has yet a different feel, appeal from others sharing similar information..</p>
<p>Peace and best wishes in your work.. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Web Usability Guidance by Interessantes woanders (2009.05.02) › Immersion I/O</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/web-usability-guidance/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Interessantes woanders (2009.05.02) › Immersion I/O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Ordnance Survey Proposals by Des McConaghy</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/ordnance-survey-proposals/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Des McConaghy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spelling corrected - try this then! Where is your moderator...or anyone? Des

 &quot;This remains a fudge while the primary concern of OS remains “to thrive in the consumer market place”.  Beyond that one suspects that privatization is on the cards! But the relevant question for a Cabinet Office website is whether this achieves a more effective consumer approach for government. For example Ministers always say the want to purchase “outputs” and so it is nothing short of a scandal that public spending outputs are still consistently excluded from all our official UK geographical information systems.  Here the OS is an important part of a problem within a problem.  Dammit, a quarter of a century ago we were able to systematically provide online local spending outputs. But then in 1986 Heseltine introduced new DTI rules which required that Whitehall secured the maximum possible commercial returns for tradeable official data. What rubbish!

 

That pernicious ruling immediately boosted many commercial information providers as each of pursued separate agreements with diverse parts of the Whitehall apparatus – and of course the same initiative also gave a massive encouragement to the early official “trading bodies” such as OS.  But one major casualty (one especially relevant to OS) was the near impossibility of ever again routinely achieving a total view of what was going on in any specific local constituency area of the country –  and relative to other areas. Because similar Treasury objectives for the purchasing of all central government and local services from the private sector was to spawn a host of diverse fragmented delivery agencies at all local delivery levels; the local budgetary haze!

 

Now, for example, Birmingham is spending a lot of money trying to see how a total £7.5 billion for one million population connects to 43 very separate delivery plans – and how these deliver diverse outcomes. The Treasury may seems to encourage this but the Cabinet Office should register the bloody minded exclusion of spending from all official GIS strategies. There should be, too, a consistent approach in Whitehall. Thus the Sustainable Communities Act 2007 required publication of the spending reports of all local public agencies. But in spite of the assurances of Ministers this no longer applies (see current protest via Early Day Motion Number 1064)!  However my main point remains; that OS holds a key position in all of this; and in making the constituency dimension of government much more explicit.  Let’s get on with it – it’s too important for any further fudge&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spelling corrected &#8211; try this then! Where is your moderator&#8230;or anyone? Des</p>
<p> &#8220;This remains a fudge while the primary concern of OS remains “to thrive in the consumer market place”.  Beyond that one suspects that privatization is on the cards! But the relevant question for a Cabinet Office website is whether this achieves a more effective consumer approach for government. For example Ministers always say the want to purchase “outputs” and so it is nothing short of a scandal that public spending outputs are still consistently excluded from all our official UK geographical information systems.  Here the OS is an important part of a problem within a problem.  Dammit, a quarter of a century ago we were able to systematically provide online local spending outputs. But then in 1986 Heseltine introduced new DTI rules which required that Whitehall secured the maximum possible commercial returns for tradeable official data. What rubbish!</p>
<p>That pernicious ruling immediately boosted many commercial information providers as each of pursued separate agreements with diverse parts of the Whitehall apparatus – and of course the same initiative also gave a massive encouragement to the early official “trading bodies” such as OS.  But one major casualty (one especially relevant to OS) was the near impossibility of ever again routinely achieving a total view of what was going on in any specific local constituency area of the country –  and relative to other areas. Because similar Treasury objectives for the purchasing of all central government and local services from the private sector was to spawn a host of diverse fragmented delivery agencies at all local delivery levels; the local budgetary haze!</p>
<p>Now, for example, Birmingham is spending a lot of money trying to see how a total £7.5 billion for one million population connects to 43 very separate delivery plans – and how these deliver diverse outcomes. The Treasury may seems to encourage this but the Cabinet Office should register the bloody minded exclusion of spending from all official GIS strategies. There should be, too, a consistent approach in Whitehall. Thus the Sustainable Communities Act 2007 required publication of the spending reports of all local public agencies. But in spite of the assurances of Ministers this no longer applies (see current protest via Early Day Motion Number 1064)!  However my main point remains; that OS holds a key position in all of this; and in making the constituency dimension of government much more explicit.  Let’s get on with it – it’s too important for any further fudge&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ordnance Survey Proposals by tom</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/ordnance-survey-proposals/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this not a contradiction?

This service will benefit individual developers and organisations such as commercial companies, local community groups, national special interest groups and smaller charities that will be able to develop applications as long as there is no direct commercial gain from the specific application itself. Advertising and sponsorship alongside the application will be encouraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this not a contradiction?</p>
<p>This service will benefit individual developers and organisations such as commercial companies, local community groups, national special interest groups and smaller charities that will be able to develop applications as long as there is no direct commercial gain from the specific application itself. Advertising and sponsorship alongside the application will be encouraged.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ordnance Survey Proposals by tom</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/ordnance-survey-proposals/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>about flippin time :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about flippin time <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ordnance Survey Proposals by Chas Newport</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/ordnance-survey-proposals/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas Newport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Form a strategic partnership with Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Form a strategic partnership with Google.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Improving Government Websites by Jeremy Poynton</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/improving-government-websites/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Poynton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will there be one to publish government smears, so we can all see them?

Yours, a former Labour voter of some 32 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will there be one to publish government smears, so we can all see them?</p>
<p>Yours, a former Labour voter of some 32 years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Report by Mapping the Power of Information Taskforce Report : Open to persuasion&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/final-report/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>Mapping the Power of Information Taskforce Report : Open to persuasion&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ethos and intention of the event, Richard Stirling, one of the Cabinet Office secretaries to the Power of Information Taskforce, asked me to receate the Taskforce&#8217;s landmark report in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ethos and intention of the event, Richard Stirling, one of the Cabinet Office secretaries to the Power of Information Taskforce, asked me to receate the Taskforce&#8217;s landmark report in [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Report by Anthony Cartmell</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/final-report/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Cartmell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see &quot;OS-derived data&quot; given a mention. I am currently in discussions with the Pricing and Licensing Team with regard to displaying route lines on the web using Google Maps API. They have stated quite clearly, both in person in a meeting and in emails, that they consider routes derived from the TeleAtlas mapping used by Google to be also derived from OS data.

This has two implications: (1) Anyone using the Google Maps API to define UK locations technically owes OS a minimum of £5,000 per annum for a CWS licence to display the data on the web. (2) It is not allowed to display such data using the Google Maps API unless you buy a commercial licence from Google at £6,000 per annum so that you can negotiate terms that are acceptable to OS.

Should every site that uses Google Maps in the UK be required to pay £11,000 per annum just to fix the &quot;derived data&quot; problem?

They appreciate that this means that, technically, almost every user of the Google Maps API for UK locations is breaking OS terms. &quot;I am liaising with colleagues as to the approach we take for Google created routes&quot;, my contact said today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see &#8220;OS-derived data&#8221; given a mention. I am currently in discussions with the Pricing and Licensing Team with regard to displaying route lines on the web using Google Maps API. They have stated quite clearly, both in person in a meeting and in emails, that they consider routes derived from the TeleAtlas mapping used by Google to be also derived from OS data.</p>
<p>This has two implications: (1) Anyone using the Google Maps API to define UK locations technically owes OS a minimum of £5,000 per annum for a CWS licence to display the data on the web. (2) It is not allowed to display such data using the Google Maps API unless you buy a commercial licence from Google at £6,000 per annum so that you can negotiate terms that are acceptable to OS.</p>
<p>Should every site that uses Google Maps in the UK be required to pay £11,000 per annum just to fix the &#8220;derived data&#8221; problem?</p>
<p>They appreciate that this means that, technically, almost every user of the Google Maps API for UK locations is breaking OS terms. &#8220;I am liaising with colleagues as to the approach we take for Google created routes&#8221;, my contact said today.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Report by Public Strategy</title>
		<link>http://powerofinformation.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/final-report/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>Public Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Information on full power...&lt;/strong&gt;

On the substance, it looks first rate:  it has a clear set of recommendations, each of which is cogently argued. 
But it isn&#039;t written as a hook to pull in somebody who doesn&#039;t already know why they should be interested....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Information on full power&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>On the substance, it looks first rate:  it has a clear set of recommendations, each of which is cogently argued.<br />
But it isn&#8217;t written as a hook to pull in somebody who doesn&#8217;t already know why they should be interested&#8230;.</p>
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